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i wanted to start a probiotic supplement (after positive results with vitmain D) but i was unsure how to choose 1. on amazon there are alot of different brands and im not sure how to select the best one. i also read something somewhere that basically anything that is shipped without refrigeration is useless because all the bacteria would be dead. any one have any good suggestions or tips?

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    What pre and or probiotics does Rhonda use?

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      But how do I know what dosage to take? I bought a brand supplying Lactobacillus Rhamnosus based on a comment Dr. Rhonda made on an older Joe Rogan podcast about its effect on GABA and anxiety. But I looked up the study, and if it’s the one she’s referring to, it was done on mice. So I’ve no idea how to replicate that study in a human (me). Anyone have insight on this, or even a reference to a podcast where she discusses dosages for probiotics in humans? Much appreciated!

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        @oofashusi Prebiotics are an order of magnitude better then Probiotics. The only reason kombucha is useful is because of the vinegar in it..

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          @oofashusi I like garden of life probiotics, which are soil based. I also like to mix it up and order different strains of probiotics. Also, I eat a lot of yogurt with probiotics and I drink kombucha. I think they best way is to go broad-spectrum. Organic acids such as lactic acid, acetic acid (found in vinegar), malic acid (found in apples), citric acid (found in lemons) are also VERY, VERY good for gut barrier (they are fuel for mitochondria) and to promote growth of good bacteria while killing off pathogenic bacteria.

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            Hopefully this reply will still get some attention even though the post is kind of old. I’m really confused about whether kombucha cultures are good for you or not. Lots of people in the field have mentioned that gut bacteria that feed on sugar are pathogenic. However, kombucha requires sugar in order to feed the SCOBY while brewing… so, the resulting kombucha must contain bacteria that feed on sugar. Why would these cultures still be considered healthy?

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              thanks for the reply and advice, i really appreciate it. ive been trying the low carb/healthy keto eating style (to deal with metabolic syndrome) and have been getting positive results so wanted to go the supplement route and avoid the carbs/sugar in yogurt. im not sure if you’ve discussed the keto/low carb diets but interesting stuff has come out recently about it being good for the brain. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141105112614.htm and this is old but http://www.healthhabits.ca/2008/10/20/supercharge-your-brain-on-a-low-carb-diet/ that would be a cool topic to discuss. also if you could add a one time donation i think that would give people more donation options


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                FYI: I’ve changed my probiotic to VSL#3. It has 10X the bugs than any other brand and 25 published studies showing efficacy in IBS, IBD, colitis, and c.diff.

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                  I know this is from 3 years ago, so I’m not sure if the product of choice for probiotics has changed.

                  Have you noticed a difference between taking Garden of Life probiotics versus VSL#3? Pros and cons? I am currently looking into a probiotic to take especially since (a) I ran out of them a few days ago and (b) I’ll soon be taking antibiotics for a dental procedure in the next coming week. Two reasons for me to include it in my diet.. I’ve had issues with yeast infections and I’m also finding that it manages blood sugars better. Not that I have diabetes, but have had concerns with it and like to take preventative action. I’m trying to determine what probiotic would be worth taking (cost of product and effectiveness). VSL the pill form isn’t out of price range for what I could afford, but appears to geared to those with such medical diagnoses you’ve mentioned in the last post.

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                    I can’t find any consistent information on the best time of day to take probiotics. Some say in the morning on an empty stomach, others say always take with food. What does the research say, Rhonda?

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                      I’ve been taking GOL primal defense for over a decade (after having terrible IBS). It was the best game in town and it seemed the soil based version and the delivery form worked well. Since then a lot of research has been done to discuss of delivery method and different strands, and all sorts of other stuff. Recently I purchased VSL 3 to give it a try and I also tried to wean myself off of probiotics using Restore humic solution. For me (n=1), I reverted back to probiotic supplementation after not having great results with Restore. I got some Dr Tobias SWAG probiotics for free, and those straight up are no good. Obviously I’ve had great results with GOL primal defense (both ultra and OG style, and I’m an OG fo shizzle), and I still get those. The biggest change these days is that I try to cycle in and out of probiotics, rather than continuous daily stream, to give my biome a chance to settle into homeostasis without using them. At the first hint of dysbiosis I cycle up (for me I notice a big difference in amount and quality of bowel movements, and of course feeling in my guts). Since I very recently got VSL3 I’ve only cycled them in my diet once and don’t have much data to report. I need to do a better job controlling my inputs to my cycles to learn what works better for me. Lastly, very important, is “when” to take them, and also being mindful of my diet in general. Since I intermittent fast and use MCT/butter coffee in the AM, I don’t take probiotics in the AM (not the right environment for them). Instead I take them before, with, or after regular meals. I take more if I eat a lot of dairy or binge on too much sugar. I’ll try to remember to post back after a couple more cycles of VSL. Good guts to you all folks

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                        Oh and before I forget, I definitely want to add that I am not a fan that GOL was sold to Nestle. I am hopeful the VSL 3 cycling will be a good and permanent substitute. It could just be placebo, but I do like the “soil based” approach, and it seems GOL primal defense has the patent on that.

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                        Bump Looking for 2018 VSL#3 info. Thanks Dr. P!

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                          Also looking for specific feedback from Dr. Patrick on her experience with VSL#3 vs Garden of Life. I recently had to take several rounds of antibiotics for an infection and looking to quickly re-populate my microbiome with a robust and diverse bacterial population then continue my dietary prebiotic regimen to nurture the flora. Both brands look promising but VSL#3 looks to be about 2x the price.

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                            just googled ‘what probiotics does rhonda use’ and got here too. i want to buy whatever she endorses i’d feel more confident than my own doctor, dont think he’d know much about probiotics

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                  I might be able to give a little bit of advise. I am by no means an expert, but I like to listen to experts. For instance, talking about supplements, Chris Kresser recommends soil based organisms, such as Prescript Assist - which I’m personally using with great results. Also, you could look into different kinds of fermented foods that offers probiotic benefits. I have found this article to be of great use: http://chriskresser.com/5-uncommon-uses-for-probiotics

                  Perhaps Dr. Patrick might be able to give real expert advise on this topic?

                  The best, Christoffer